fast sss skin visible for render elements

[hot chip]

Hi guys,

the same way as the carpaint shader.

i want use the fast sss skin shader and i can´t use it for the render elements. My solution...

You must only in the \mentalray\shaders_standard\include/subsurface.mi remove the word "hidden" in the gui from misss_fast_shader and misss_skin_specular shader. Then can you use this shader in the archi&desgin material or dgs material and it´s works this render elements. :o

german thread: http://forum.german-mentalray-wiki.info/viewtopic.php?t=411

http://forum.german-mentalray-wiki.info/userpix/5_haut_shadertree_1.jpg

http://forum.german-mentalray-wiki.info/userpix/5_haut_2.jpg

mfg
hot chip

[chaka]

thanks hot chip , always your discoveries are interesting :D






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sorry my english :p

[jdigital]

Thanks for sharing this info hot chip. I have the same question about this as with the car paint shader. I posted that yesterday.

Does this work for the 64bit max9? Also would you be able to post your paint.mi & the subsurface.mi? Just want to make sure I'm changing the .mi file correctly.

It's really exciting to know that these shaders would work with render elements. Makes me wonder why this wasn't done orginally in 3dsmax. I don't understand why they don't make certain shaders work with render elements....

Thanks

[hot chip]

hi,

can you post your source code from the mi files, then i can look and i hope i can help you.

[Shimrod]

Thanks again for this new tip hot chip ! :cool: :)

[jdigital]

Sorry for the late response but attached is the paint.mi file that I modified and doesn't work in Max9 64bit.

Thanks for looking at this...

[hot chip]

hi,

the problem is you remove only the word hidden not "hidden"


version 2
apply material
gui "gui_mi_metallic_paint" {
control "Global" "Global" (
"hidden"
)
}



that is wrong:

version 2
apply material
gui "gui_mi_metallic_paint" {
control "Global" "Global" (
"" <- error
)
}



this code is correct:

version 2
apply material
gui "gui_mi_metallic_paint" {
control "Global" "Global" (

)
}

[jdigital]

Ahh, didn't know the "" needed to go as well. Works awesome

Thanks!

[Bahamut]

i've managed to unhide the misss_fast_shader and misss_skin_specular shader, but i can't find the misss_fast_skin_shader, in the .mi file there's a misss_fast_skin_phen, but i don't know how to unhide it, someone know how to unlock it???:confused:

[hot chip]

you must look in the subsurface.mi file ;)

[hot chip]

hi bahamut,

here my subsurface.mi file thats work.

[Bahamut]

thanks hot chip, but even with you .mi file, the shader remain hidden(if it can be unhidden)
here is a pic
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7866/pic1rc5.jpg
the only shaders unhidden are, the physicalSSS, the fastSSS, and the specular for the skin, but there's no fast_skinSSS shader...
must i look in some other place maybe???:confused:

[hot chip]

and what is the sss fast render shader ;)

[Bahamut]

it's the fast_sss shader, it's different from the fast_SSS_skin
the fast_SSS has only 2 level of scattering, the fast_SSS_skin, has 3 level of scattering, to better simulate the skin

[hot chip]

yes waht true, the backscattering function don´t work of this way. I don´t no wy. :(

But you can use another skin shader:

the diffusion shader: http://animus.brinkster.net/stuff/stuff.asp

skin packet from sintesys: http://www.sintesys.net/SkinshaderWeb/

[Bahamut]

i've tested the diffusion shader on a sphere, but it render as if faceted is turned on in the material, i've used a mentalray material with the diffusion in the surface shader
using the diffusion shader in an A&D, or standard material will cause no scattering, so it's of no use :(

[junz]

to bad those are skin Shader for XSI.. :( i wonder if there is the *.mi file..

have any body try the dt3d skin shader in max?
http://www.3dvalley.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=1135&

i'm wonder if it's work within the A&D material too.. :)

[hot chip]

hi,

the Mi-file from the sitneyes Skin Shader can you download on www.maxplugins.de. The Shaders are work with Max, XSI or Maya or Blender :o

[Creator]

but the shader has no back scattering....